NJ Transit ORT Tickets-Valid on All Trains?

[Michael Finfer]

I used an ORT tonight on train 5733, and the collector took it without
batting an eye and without asking me to step it up. I suspect that this
means that those that are left are now valid on all trains.

I wonder what happens now if you present one in the wrong direction.
Does anyone know exactly what instructions the crews have been given
about these tickets?

Michael Finfer
Bridgewater, NJ

[h***@bbs.cpcn.com]

Post by Michael Finfer
I wonder what happens now if you present one in the wrong direction.
Does anyone know exactly what instructions the crews have been given
about these tickets?

I can't answer your specific question. But for the last several years
NJT, unlike other carriers, has been very fussy about the 'direction'
that the ticket reads. I've seen conductors give passengers a hard
time if the direction was wrong, and I've heard some horror stories.
I suspect this is because they know tickets get missed during
collection so they want to minimize the re-use of tickets.

I am careful to present the proper half of the ticket.

I would note that different conductors are stricter than others. Some
rush through and don't really look at the ticket, but others check
each and every one carefully.


Unlike NJT, MNRR, and LIRR, SEPTA tickets don't have station names on
them, only the zone number(s). They're not computerized either.
Obviously the direction doesn't matter. But MNRR and LIRR do not care
about direction either.

[Ed(NY)]

Unlike NJT, MNRR, and LIRR, SEPTA tickets don't have station names on
them, only the zone number(s). They're not computerized either.
Obviously the direction doesn't matter. But MNRR and LIRR do not care
about direction either.

That's because MNRR and LIRR do not sell discounted round-trip tickets.

[h***@bbs.cpcn.com]

Post by h***@bbs.cpcn.com
Unlike NJT, MNRR, and LIRR, SEPTA tickets don't have station names on
them, only the zone number(s).  They're not computerized either.
Obviously the direction doesn't matter.  But MNRR and LIRR do not care
about direction either.
That's because MNRR and LIRR do not sell discounted round-trip tickets.

[Note--Ed, your quoting doesn't seem to be working.]

SEPTA does not sell 'round-trip' tickets; it's peak and off peak
tickets are one-way, just like MNRR and LIRR. It was only NJT where a
round trip off-peak ticket had to be used on off-peak trains in both
directions. (SEPTA also sells a daypass.)

[Jimmy]

Post by h***@bbs.cpcn.com
Unlike NJT, MNRR, and LIRR, SEPTA tickets don't have station names on
them, only the zone number(s).  They're not computerized either.
Obviously the direction doesn't matter.  But MNRR and LIRR do not care
about direction either.

A few years back, the LIRR did care about direction for one type of
ticket: the second half of a round trip bought on board the train. I
have no idea why, since there was no discount involved, and tickets
bought anywhere else had no direction restriction.

I haven't bought a ticket on board since (almost) every station got
ticket machines, meaning the on-board penalties always apply. But I
strongly suspect this directionality restriction still applies.

http://www.mta.info/lirr/pubs/TicketInfo.htm#onboardtrains says on-
board tickets can be one-way peak, one-way off-peak, or round trip off-
peak. Did they used to sell round trip peak tickets as well?

Jimmy

[Joseph D. Korman]

Post by Michael Finfer
I used an ORT tonight on train 5733, and the collector took it without
batting an eye and without asking me to step it up. I suspect that
this means that those that are left are now valid on all trains.
I wonder what happens now if you present one in the wrong direction.
Does anyone know exactly what instructions the crews have been given
about these tickets?
Michael Finfer
Bridgewater, NJ

NJT issued a directive that said to accept any ORT tickets for any trip
in either direction for the zone. This was to avoid 'passenger animosity'.
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